It certainly appears we have enough interest, and perhaps the right timing to get something going, and I quite appreciate Lena's idea that we don't need to solve this all at once.  A few questions to I've been thinking about over the past few days:

1) How do we want to keep this conversation going? Do we continue it as a long email thread discussion; do we want to plan a conference call; is there another approach most well suited?

2) Would the goal be to influence the government, with the goal of policy implementation in the short term, or do we go for the parties so that this would be an issue in the next election (or do we just aim for both objectives)?  Relatedly does anyone have any expertise on the limitations under the Lobbying Act/know of a good resource for explaining such rules and limitations?

3) Are we aiming to build a single voice for advocacy bringing together all the interested groups, or do we want to develop key messages and a common set of numbers/stats and let individuals groups pursue their own approach?

Michael

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 5:00 AM Rajiv Jhangiani <rajiv.jhangiani@kpu.ca> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I agree that the time is ripe for this. One important step that would boost any efforts in this direction would be if the UNESCO OER recommendation receives approval later this month at the general conference. If this happens it will create a broader international obligation for our federal government in support of which we can help articulate an effective strategy. If you are unfamiliar with the recommendation see: https://unesco.ijs.si/project/unesco-recommendation-on-open-educational-resources/

Cheers,

Rajiv

 

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Hi everyone, observing this conversation with interest.

 

I’m wondering if part of the plan could leverage CICAN, who are already doing advocacy work with the fed gov’t on behalf on colleges and institutes (https://www.collegesinstitutes.ca/policyfocus/) .  They are well resourced and well established with v. large membership and it might be worth a phone call with Denise Amyot – a few years ago I was invited to do a talk at their annual conference on open education and innovation…turns out it was sponsored by a publisher - which was awkward -  but there was quite a bit of interest by people in the room about the textbook cost problem. 

 

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Heather, I was thinking of initiatives along the lines you mention.

I agree with Nick. With the education portfolio being of provincial jurisdiction, it makes it tricky to target the Federal Government for funding. Having said that, they fund specific projects. Indigenous ed is one, the whole Trades Harmonization project is another. Tim will know all about that J

 

Maybe there is room to work strategically around federally funded projects to generate awareness and even engage in conversations about policy… Just a thought. I would love to see Canada have a national policy / directive on Open Education! A lot of Caribbean Governments do…. The Commonwealth of Learning could provide advise on how to go about it.

 

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Nick, also Indigenous education, which is the one area of education funded by the federal government.

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Hi all, 

 

I would certainly be on board with this! It would be fantastic to see a national initiative in this area, and I would throw anything at it to make that happen. 

 

There is a massive impediment to it though, as with any national level higher ed project, and that is where to pitch it because there is not a natural home for this ask within the federal government. Without a ministry, it is very hard to get government to care about it, especially since it is in an area that is a provincial mandate and with the provinces clearly not happy with the feds right now. I don't want to pour cold water on the idea, but want to be realistic about the uphill battle it would be to even get noticed, let alone a commitment to resources. 

 

Having said that, I think there are elements that could possibly fit within these departments: 

 

  • Innovation, Science, and Economic Development (probably the closest bet)
  • Employment and Social Development (a long shot, but ESD administers student loans so maybe)
  • Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism (another long shot, but could be targeted campaign around the things they care about - have to be creative here)
  • Treasury Board and Ministry of Digital Government (yes, we have one of those)
    • Open Government - would need to be creative and it doesn't directly have a ministerial portfolio attached (but falls under the above's purview), so less likely to get funding, but Canada is the OGP chair this year, and has committed to the Open by default approach (which has recently filtered into things like procurement of software as well), so may be able to leverage this, plus the tri-council open requirements. 

At the provincial level, anywhere we have a conservative government, as in my own province of Ontario, is going to be a blocker to this for a number of reasons. With that in mind though, conservative governments are making higher ed less accessible to their constituents, more expensive if you do manage to get in, and generally disinvesting in this file, so there is an opportunity to hammer the alternative parties to be the opposite. 

 

So I think it will be a tough sell, but absolutely worthwhile trying. 

 

Cheers

 

Nick

 

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Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?

 

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From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces@mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Michael McNally <mmcnally@ualberta.ca>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
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Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election

 

Dear Canada OER Community,

 

I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.  

 

Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they figured they would garner votes.  Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).  

 

I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding, but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.

 

Michael

 

 

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