31 Oct
2019
31 Oct
'19
5:05 p.m.
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal
election campaign where affordability was a central concern for seemingly
every party, even to the point of floating vague promises (e.g. wireless
mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how this would be
practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants,
and it appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure
promises if they figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the
fact we are likely looking at a shorter time frame to the next election
(most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party will be looking to
improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was wondering
if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan
issue, that if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply
adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get
OER funding, but thought I would see if there was some collective interest
in pursuing this.
Michael
--
Michael B. McNally,
Associate Professor, Faculty of Education (School of Library and
Information Studies)
5-171 Education North, University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta CANADA T6G 2J4
mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca
Phone: 780-492-3934
Fax: 780-492-2430
1 Nov
1 Nov
11:30 a.m.
Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
Amanda Coolidge, MEd [she/her]
Associate Director of Open Education, BCcampus
Cell: 250 818 4592 • Email: acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @acoolidge <http://www.twitter.com/acoolidge> • LinkedIn:
amandacoolidge<https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandacoolidge/>
Learning. Doing. Leading.
BCcampus.ca<https://bccampus.ca/> • @BCcampus<https://twitter.com/BCcampus>
• #BCcampus<https://twitter.com/hashtag/BCcampus?src=hash>
For thousands of years the səl̓ilwətaɁɬ təməxʷ (Tsleil-Waututh), Skwxwú7mesh-ulh Temíx̱w
(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Michael McNally
<mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
To: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign
where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of
floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how
this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it
appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they
figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a
shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party
will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was
wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that
if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding,
but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.
Michael
--
Michael B. McNally,
Associate Professor, Faculty of Education (School of Library and Information Studies)
5-171 Education North, University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta CANADA T6G 2J4
mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>
Phone: 780-492-3934
Fax: 780-492-2430
11:56 a.m.
I would agree, count me in.
Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Amanda Coolidge
<acoolidge(a)bccampus.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 11:30:37 AM
To: Michael McNally <mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>; Canada OER
<canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
Amanda Coolidge, MEd [she/her]
Associate Director of Open Education, BCcampus
Cell: 250 818 4592 • Email: acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @acoolidge <http://www.twitter.com/acoolidge> • LinkedIn:
amandacoolidge<https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandacoolidge/>
Learning. Doing. Leading.
BCcampus.ca<https://bccampus.ca/> • @BCcampus<https://twitter.com/BCcampus>
• #BCcampus<https://twitter.com/hashtag/BCcampus?src=hash>
For thousands of years the səl̓ilwətaɁɬ təməxʷ (Tsleil-Waututh), Skwxwú7mesh-ulh Temíx̱w
(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Michael McNally
<mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
To: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign
where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of
floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how
this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it
appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they
figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a
shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party
will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was
wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that
if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding,
but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.
Michael
--
Michael B. McNally,
Associate Professor, Faculty of Education (School of Library and Information Studies)
5-171 Education North, University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta CANADA T6G 2J4
mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>
Phone: 780-492-3934
Fax: 780-492-2430
11:59 a.m.
Yes. Let’s work on this.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 1, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Tim Carson <tcarson(a)bccampus.ca> wrote:
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Saskatchewan. Do not
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is
safe. If in doubt, please forward suspicious emails to phishing(a)usask.ca
I would agree, count me in.
Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Amanda Coolidge
<acoolidge(a)bccampus.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 11:30:37 AM
To: Michael McNally <mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>; Canada OER
<canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
Amanda Coolidge, MEd [she/her]
Associate Director of Open Education, BCcampus
Cell: 250 818 4592 • Email: acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @acoolidge <http://www.twitter.com/acoolidge> • LinkedIn:
amandacoolidge<https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandacoolidge/>
<image001.png>
Learning. Doing. Leading.
BCcampus.ca<https://bccampus.ca/> • @BCcampus<https://twitter.com/BCcampus>
• #BCcampus<https://twitter.com/hashtag/BCcampus?src=hash>
For thousands of years the səl̓ilwətaɁɬ təməxʷ (Tsleil-Waututh), Skwxwú7mesh-ulh Temíx̱w
(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Michael McNally
<mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
To: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign
where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of
floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how
this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it
appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they
figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a
shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party
will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was
wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that
if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding,
but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.
Michael
--
Michael B. McNally,
Associate Professor, Faculty of Education (School of Library and Information Studies)
5-171 Education North, University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta CANADA T6G 2J4
mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>
Phone: 780-492-3934
Fax: 780-492-2430
_______________________________________________
Canadaoer mailing list
Canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca
https://lists.bccampus.ca/mailman/listinfo/canadaoer
12:06 p.m.
Great idea!
Here in BC, and I expect it’s true elsewhere, students have had a very powerful voice in
encouraging the provincial government to move forward. I don’t know if there are groups of
students already working on the federal level, but it would be good to find out. And if
there aren’t, is there a national student group that would be good to reach out to and see
if they would work on this with us?
Christina
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Christina Hendricks, PhD (she, her)
Professor of Teaching, Philosophy
Academic Director, Centre for Teaching, Learning and Technology
The University of British Columbia | Vancouver Campus | Musqueam Traditional, Ancestral,
Unceded Territory
Irving K. Barber Learning Centre 214 – 1961 East Mall | Vancouver BC | V6T 1Z1 Canada
Phone 604 822 1136
christina.hendricks@ubc.ca<mailto:christina.hendricks@ubc.ca>
http://ctlt.ubc.ca/<http://ctlt.ubc.ca> | https://chendricks.org
On November 1, 2019 at 11:59:49 AM, Ross, Heather
(heather.ross@usask.ca<mailto:heather.ross@usask.ca>) wrote:
Yes. Let’s work on this.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 1, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Tim Carson <tcarson(a)bccampus.ca> wrote:
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Saskatchewan. Do not
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is
safe. If in doubt, please forward suspicious emails to phishing(a)usask.ca
I would agree, count me in.
Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Amanda Coolidge
<acoolidge(a)bccampus.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 11:30:37 AM
To: Michael McNally <mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>; Canada OER
<canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
Amanda Coolidge, MEd [she/her]
Associate Director of Open Education, BCcampus
Cell: 250 818 4592 • Email: acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @acoolidge <http://www.twitter.com/acoolidge> • LinkedIn:
amandacoolidge<https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandacoolidge/>
<image001.png>
Learning. Doing. Leading.
BCcampus.ca<https://bccampus.ca/> • @BCcampus<https://twitter.com/BCcampus>
• #BCcampus<https://twitter.com/hashtag/BCcampus?src=hash>
For thousands of years the səl̓ilwətaɁɬ təməxʷ (Tsleil-Waututh), Skwxwú7mesh-ulh Temíx̱w
(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Michael McNally
<mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
To: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign
where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of
floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how
this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it
appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they
figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a
shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party
will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was
wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that
if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding,
but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.
Michael
--
Michael B. McNally,
Associate Professor, Faculty of Education (School of Library and Information Studies)
5-171 Education North, University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta CANADA T6G 2J4
mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>
Phone: 780-492-3934
Fax: 780-492-2430
_______________________________________________
Canadaoer mailing list
Canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca
https://lists.bccampus.ca/mailman/listinfo/canadaoer
_______________________________________________
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12:21 p.m.
Definitely need the student associations onboard. There are two main national ones:
CASA<https://www.casa-acae.com/>, and CFS<https://cfs-fcee.ca/>. They
don't seem to get along that well with either each other or the provincial and local
unions they represent, but maybe they can be united on an issue like this?
N
We have moved!
The Office of Open Learning has moved to the CEI as of Monday, 26 August. We apologize
for any delay in getting back to you as we settle in and look forward to welcoming you in
our new offices!
Prof. Nick Baker
Director
Office of Open Learning
Room CEI-2241
Ed Lumley Centre for Engineering Innovation
(entrance at 700 California Ave)
University of Windsor
401 Sunset Ave.
Windsor, Ontario
N9B 3P4
(519) 253-3000 ext. 4925
fax (519) 971-3693
www.uwindsor.ca/openlearning
Twitter: @nbaker
The University of Windsor is built on the traditional territory of the Three Fires
Confederacy of First Nations, which includes the Ojibwa, the Odawa, and the Potawatomie.
As a settler here, I acknowledge and thank the traditional custodians of the land for
their wisdom and connection to this place.
________________________________
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Hendricks,
Christina <christina.hendricks(a)ubc.ca>
Sent: November 1, 2019 3:06 PM
To: Ross, Heather <heather.ross(a)usask.ca>; Tim Carson <tcarson(a)bccampus.ca>
Cc: Amanda Coolidge <acoolidge(a)bccampus.ca>; Canada OER
<canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Great idea!
Here in BC, and I expect it’s true elsewhere, students have had a very powerful voice in
encouraging the provincial government to move forward. I don’t know if there are groups of
students already working on the federal level, but it would be good to find out. And if
there aren’t, is there a national student group that would be good to reach out to and see
if they would work on this with us?
Christina
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Christina Hendricks, PhD (she, her)
Professor of Teaching, Philosophy
Academic Director, Centre for Teaching, Learning and Technology
The University of British Columbia | Vancouver Campus | Musqueam Traditional, Ancestral,
Unceded Territory
Irving K. Barber Learning Centre 214 – 1961 East Mall | Vancouver BC | V6T 1Z1 Canada
Phone 604 822 1136
christina.hendricks@ubc.ca<mailto:christina.hendricks@ubc.ca>
http://ctlt.ubc.ca/<http://ctlt.ubc.ca> | https://chendricks.org
On November 1, 2019 at 11:59:49 AM, Ross, Heather
(heather.ross@usask.ca<mailto:heather.ross@usask.ca>) wrote:
Yes. Let’s work on this.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 1, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Tim Carson <tcarson(a)bccampus.ca> wrote:
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Saskatchewan. Do not
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is
safe. If in doubt, please forward suspicious emails to phishing(a)usask.ca
I would agree, count me in.
Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Amanda Coolidge
<acoolidge(a)bccampus.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 11:30:37 AM
To: Michael McNally <mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>; Canada OER
<canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
Amanda Coolidge, MEd [she/her]
Associate Director of Open Education, BCcampus
Cell: 250 818 4592 • Email: acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @acoolidge <http://www.twitter.com/acoolidge> • LinkedIn:
amandacoolidge<https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandacoolidge/>
<image001.png>
Learning. Doing. Leading.
BCcampus.ca<https://bccampus.ca/> • @BCcampus<https://twitter.com/BCcampus>
• #BCcampus<https://twitter.com/hashtag/BCcampus?src=hash>
For thousands of years the səl̓ilwətaɁɬ təməxʷ (Tsleil-Waututh), Skwxwú7mesh-ulh Temíx̱w
(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Michael McNally
<mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
To: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign
where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of
floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how
this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it
appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they
figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a
shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party
will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was
wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that
if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding,
but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.
Michael
--
Michael B. McNally,
Associate Professor, Faculty of Education (School of Library and Information Studies)
5-171 Education North, University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta CANADA T6G 2J4
mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>
Phone: 780-492-3934
Fax: 780-492-2430
_______________________________________________
Canadaoer mailing list
Canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca
https://lists.bccampus.ca/mailman/listinfo/canadaoer
_______________________________________________
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12:10 p.m.
Hi all,
I would certainly be on board with this! It would be fantastic to see a national
initiative in this area, and I would throw anything at it to make that happen.
There is a massive impediment to it though, as with any national level higher ed project,
and that is where to pitch it because there is not a natural home for this ask within the
federal government. Without a ministry, it is very hard to get government to care about
it, especially since it is in an area that is a provincial mandate and with the provinces
clearly not happy with the feds right now. I don't want to pour cold water on the
idea, but want to be realistic about the uphill battle it would be to even get noticed,
let alone a commitment to resources.
Having said that, I think there are elements that could possibly fit within these
departments:
* Innovation, Science, and Economic Development (probably the closest bet)
* Employment and Social Development (a long shot, but ESD administers student loans so
maybe)
* Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism (another long shot, but could be targeted
campaign around the things they care about - have to be creative here)
* Treasury Board and Ministry of Digital Government (yes, we have one of those)
* Open Government - would need to be creative and it doesn't directly have a
ministerial portfolio attached (but falls under the above's purview), so less likely
to get funding, but Canada is the OGP chair this year, and has committed to the Open by
default approach (which has recently filtered into things like procurement of software as
well), so may be able to leverage this, plus the tri-council open requirements.
At the provincial level, anywhere we have a conservative government, as in my own province
of Ontario, is going to be a blocker to this for a number of reasons. With that in mind
though, conservative governments are making higher ed less accessible to their
constituents, more expensive if you do manage to get in, and generally disinvesting in
this file, so there is an opportunity to hammer the alternative parties to be the
opposite.
So I think it will be a tough sell, but absolutely worthwhile trying.
Cheers
Nick
We have moved!
The Office of Open Learning has moved to the CEI as of Monday, 26 August. We apologise
for any delay in getting back to you as we settle in and look forward to welcoming you in
our new offices!
Prof. Nick Baker
Director
Office of Open Learning
Room CEI-2241
Ed Lumley Centre for Engineering Innovation
(entrance at 700 California Ave)
University of Windsor
401 Sunset Ave.
Windsor, Ontario
N9B 3P4
(519) 253-3000 ext. 4925
fax (519) 971-3693
www.uwindsor.ca/openlearning
Twitter: @nbaker
The University of Windsor is built on the traditional territory of the Three Fires
Confederacy of First Nations, which includes the Ojibwa, the Odawa, and the Potawatomie.
As a settler here, I acknowledge and thank the traditional custodians of the land for
their wisdom and connection to this place.
________________________________
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Amanda Coolidge
<acoolidge(a)bccampus.ca>
Sent: November 1, 2019 2:30 PM
To: Michael McNally <mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>; Canada OER
<canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
Amanda Coolidge, MEd [she/her]
Associate Director of Open Education, BCcampus
Cell: 250 818 4592 • Email: acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @acoolidge <http://www.twitter.com/acoolidge> • LinkedIn:
amandacoolidge<https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandacoolidge/>
Learning. Doing. Leading.
BCcampus.ca<https://bccampus.ca/> • @BCcampus<https://twitter.com/BCcampus>
• #BCcampus<https://twitter.com/hashtag/BCcampus?src=hash>
For thousands of years the səl̓ilwətaɁɬ təməxʷ (Tsleil-Waututh), Skwxwú7mesh-ulh Temíx̱w
(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Michael McNally
<mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
To: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign
where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of
floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how
this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it
appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they
figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a
shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party
will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was
wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that
if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding,
but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.
Michael
--
Michael B. McNally,
Associate Professor, Faculty of Education (School of Library and Information Studies)
5-171 Education North, University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta CANADA T6G 2J4
mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>
Phone: 780-492-3934
Fax: 780-492-2430
12:12 p.m.
I forgot to add that I will be bringing a trades/vocational Ed voice to the table....just
another lever to move the issue forward
Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Nick Baker
<nbaker(a)uwindsor.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 12:10:11 PM
To: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Hi all,
I would certainly be on board with this! It would be fantastic to see a national
initiative in this area, and I would throw anything at it to make that happen.
There is a massive impediment to it though, as with any national level higher ed project,
and that is where to pitch it because there is not a natural home for this ask within the
federal government. Without a ministry, it is very hard to get government to care about
it, especially since it is in an area that is a provincial mandate and with the provinces
clearly not happy with the feds right now. I don't want to pour cold water on the
idea, but want to be realistic about the uphill battle it would be to even get noticed,
let alone a commitment to resources.
Having said that, I think there are elements that could possibly fit within these
departments:
* Innovation, Science, and Economic Development (probably the closest bet)
* Employment and Social Development (a long shot, but ESD administers student loans so
maybe)
* Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism (another long shot, but could be targeted
campaign around the things they care about - have to be creative here)
* Treasury Board and Ministry of Digital Government (yes, we have one of those)
* Open Government - would need to be creative and it doesn't directly have a
ministerial portfolio attached (but falls under the above's purview), so less likely
to get funding, but Canada is the OGP chair this year, and has committed to the Open by
default approach (which has recently filtered into things like procurement of software as
well), so may be able to leverage this, plus the tri-council open requirements.
At the provincial level, anywhere we have a conservative government, as in my own province
of Ontario, is going to be a blocker to this for a number of reasons. With that in mind
though, conservative governments are making higher ed less accessible to their
constituents, more expensive if you do manage to get in, and generally disinvesting in
this file, so there is an opportunity to hammer the alternative parties to be the
opposite.
So I think it will be a tough sell, but absolutely worthwhile trying.
Cheers
Nick
We have moved!
The Office of Open Learning has moved to the CEI as of Monday, 26 August. We apologise
for any delay in getting back to you as we settle in and look forward to welcoming you in
our new offices!
Prof. Nick Baker
Director
Office of Open Learning
Room CEI-2241
Ed Lumley Centre for Engineering Innovation
(entrance at 700 California Ave)
University of Windsor
401 Sunset Ave.
Windsor, Ontario
N9B 3P4
(519) 253-3000 ext. 4925
fax (519) 971-3693
www.uwindsor.ca/openlearning
Twitter: @nbaker
The University of Windsor is built on the traditional territory of the Three Fires
Confederacy of First Nations, which includes the Ojibwa, the Odawa, and the Potawatomie.
As a settler here, I acknowledge and thank the traditional custodians of the land for
their wisdom and connection to this place.
________________________________
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Amanda Coolidge
<acoolidge(a)bccampus.ca>
Sent: November 1, 2019 2:30 PM
To: Michael McNally <mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>; Canada OER
<canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
Amanda Coolidge, MEd [she/her]
Associate Director of Open Education, BCcampus
Cell: 250 818 4592 • Email: acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @acoolidge <http://www.twitter.com/acoolidge> • LinkedIn:
amandacoolidge<https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandacoolidge/>
Learning. Doing. Leading.
BCcampus.ca<https://bccampus.ca/> • @BCcampus<https://twitter.com/BCcampus>
• #BCcampus<https://twitter.com/hashtag/BCcampus?src=hash>
For thousands of years the səl̓ilwətaɁɬ təməxʷ (Tsleil-Waututh), Skwxwú7mesh-ulh Temíx̱w
(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Michael McNally
<mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
To: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign
where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of
floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how
this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it
appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they
figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a
shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party
will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was
wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that
if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding,
but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.
Michael
--
Michael B. McNally,
Associate Professor, Faculty of Education (School of Library and Information Studies)
5-171 Education North, University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta CANADA T6G 2J4
mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>
Phone: 780-492-3934
Fax: 780-492-2430
12:18 p.m.
Nick, also Indigenous education, which is the one area of education funded by the federal
government.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 1, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Nick Baker <nbaker(a)uwindsor.ca> wrote:
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Saskatchewan. Do not
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Hi all,
I would certainly be on board with this! It would be fantastic to see a national
initiative in this area, and I would throw anything at it to make that happen.
There is a massive impediment to it though, as with any national level higher ed project,
and that is where to pitch it because there is not a natural home for this ask within the
federal government. Without a ministry, it is very hard to get government to care about
it, especially since it is in an area that is a provincial mandate and with the provinces
clearly not happy with the feds right now. I don't want to pour cold water on the
idea, but want to be realistic about the uphill battle it would be to even get noticed,
let alone a commitment to resources.
Having said that, I think there are elements that could possibly fit within these
departments:
* Innovation, Science, and Economic Development (probably the closest bet)
* Employment and Social Development (a long shot, but ESD administers student loans so
maybe)
* Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism (another long shot, but could be targeted
campaign around the things they care about - have to be creative here)
* Treasury Board and Ministry of Digital Government (yes, we have one of those)
* Open Government - would need to be creative and it doesn't directly have a
ministerial portfolio attached (but falls under the above's purview), so less likely
to get funding, but Canada is the OGP chair this year, and has committed to the Open by
default approach (which has recently filtered into things like procurement of software as
well), so may be able to leverage this, plus the tri-council open requirements.
At the provincial level, anywhere we have a conservative government, as in my own province
of Ontario, is going to be a blocker to this for a number of reasons. With that in mind
though, conservative governments are making higher ed less accessible to their
constituents, more expensive if you do manage to get in, and generally disinvesting in
this file, so there is an opportunity to hammer the alternative parties to be the
opposite.
So I think it will be a tough sell, but absolutely worthwhile trying.
Cheers
Nick
We have moved!
The Office of Open Learning has moved to the CEI as of Monday, 26 August. We apologise
for any delay in getting back to you as we settle in and look forward to welcoming you in
our new offices!
Prof. Nick Baker
Director
Office of Open Learning
Room CEI-2241
Ed Lumley Centre for Engineering Innovation
(entrance at 700 California Ave)
University of Windsor
401 Sunset Ave.
Windsor, Ontario
N9B 3P4
(519) 253-3000 ext. 4925
fax (519) 971-3693
www.uwindsor.ca/openlearning
Twitter: @nbaker
The University of Windsor is built on the traditional territory of the Three Fires
Confederacy of First Nations, which includes the Ojibwa, the Odawa, and the Potawatomie.
As a settler here, I acknowledge and thank the traditional custodians of the land for
their wisdom and connection to this place.
________________________________
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Amanda Coolidge
<acoolidge(a)bccampus.ca>
Sent: November 1, 2019 2:30 PM
To: Michael McNally <mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>; Canada OER
<canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
Amanda Coolidge, MEd [she/her]
Associate Director of Open Education, BCcampus
Cell: 250 818 4592 • Email: acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @acoolidge <http://www.twitter.com/acoolidge> • LinkedIn:
amandacoolidge<https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandacoolidge/>
<image001.png>
Learning. Doing. Leading.
BCcampus.ca<https://bccampus.ca/> • @BCcampus<https://twitter.com/BCcampus>
• #BCcampus<https://twitter.com/hashtag/BCcampus?src=hash>
For thousands of years the səl̓ilwətaɁɬ təməxʷ (Tsleil-Waututh), Skwxwú7mesh-ulh Temíx̱w
(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Michael McNally
<mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
To: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign
where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of
floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how
this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it
appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they
figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a
shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party
will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was
wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that
if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding,
but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.
Michael
--
Michael B. McNally,
Associate Professor, Faculty of Education (School of Library and Information Studies)
5-171 Education North, University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta CANADA T6G 2J4
mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>
Phone: 780-492-3934
Fax: 780-492-2430
_______________________________________________
Canadaoer mailing list
Canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca
https://lists.bccampus.ca/mailman/listinfo/canadaoer
2:36 p.m.
Heather, I was thinking of initiatives along the lines you mention.
I agree with Nick. With the education portfolio being of provincial jurisdiction, it makes
it tricky to target the Federal Government for funding. Having said that, they fund
specific projects. Indigenous ed is one, the whole Trades Harmonization project is
another. Tim will know all about that ☺
Maybe there is room to work strategically around federally funded projects to generate
awareness and even engage in conversations about policy… Just a thought. I would love to
see Canada have a national policy / directive on Open Education! A lot of Caribbean
Governments do…. The Commonwealth of Learning could provide advise on how to go about
it.
Cheers,
Rosario
[rosario.jpg]
Rosario Passos
Instructional Development Consultant (IDC)
Learning and Teaching Centre
British Columbia Institute of Technology (BCIT)
3700 Willingdon Avenue, Burnaby, BC V5G 3H2
Tel: (604) 456 1266 rosario_passos@bcit.ca<mailto:rosario_passos@bcit.ca>
www.bcit.ca/ltc
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From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> On Behalf Of Ross, Heather
Sent: November 1, 2019 12:19 PM
To: Nick Baker <nbaker(a)uwindsor.ca>
Cc: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Nick, also Indigenous education, which is the one area of education funded by the federal
government.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 1, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Nick Baker
<nbaker@uwindsor.ca<mailto:nbaker@uwindsor.ca>> wrote:
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Saskatchewan. Do not
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is
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Hi all,
I would certainly be on board with this! It would be fantastic to see a national
initiative in this area, and I would throw anything at it to make that happen.
There is a massive impediment to it though, as with any national level higher ed project,
and that is where to pitch it because there is not a natural home for this ask within the
federal government. Without a ministry, it is very hard to get government to care about
it, especially since it is in an area that is a provincial mandate and with the provinces
clearly not happy with the feds right now. I don't want to pour cold water on the
idea, but want to be realistic about the uphill battle it would be to even get noticed,
let alone a commitment to resources.
Having said that, I think there are elements that could possibly fit within these
departments:
* Innovation, Science, and Economic Development (probably the closest bet)
* Employment and Social Development (a long shot, but ESD administers student loans so
maybe)
* Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism (another long shot, but could be targeted
campaign around the things they care about - have to be creative here)
* Treasury Board and Ministry of Digital Government (yes, we have one of those)
* Open Government - would need to be creative and it doesn't directly have a
ministerial portfolio attached (but falls under the above's purview), so less likely
to get funding, but Canada is the OGP chair this year, and has committed to the Open by
default approach (which has recently filtered into things like procurement of software as
well), so may be able to leverage this, plus the tri-council open requirements.
At the provincial level, anywhere we have a conservative government, as in my own province
of Ontario, is going to be a blocker to this for a number of reasons. With that in mind
though, conservative governments are making higher ed less accessible to their
constituents, more expensive if you do manage to get in, and generally disinvesting in
this file, so there is an opportunity to hammer the alternative parties to be the
opposite.
So I think it will be a tough sell, but absolutely worthwhile trying.
Cheers
Nick
We have moved!
The Office of Open Learning has moved to the CEI as of Monday, 26 August. We apologise
for any delay in getting back to you as we settle in and look forward to welcoming you in
our new offices!
Prof. Nick Baker
Director
Office of Open Learning
Room CEI-2241
Ed Lumley Centre for Engineering Innovation
(entrance at 700 California Ave)
University of Windsor
401 Sunset Ave.
Windsor, Ontario
N9B 3P4
(519) 253-3000 ext. 4925
fax (519) 971-3693
www.uwindsor.ca/openlearning<http://www.uwindsor.ca/openlearning>
Twitter: @nbaker
The University of Windsor is built on the traditional territory of the Three Fires
Confederacy of First Nations, which includes the Ojibwa, the Odawa, and the Potawatomie.
As a settler here, I acknowledge and thank the traditional custodians of the land for
their wisdom and connection to this place.
________________________________
From: Canadaoer
<canadaoer-bounces@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:canadaoer-bounces@mail.bccampus.ca>>
on behalf of Amanda Coolidge
<acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>>
Sent: November 1, 2019 2:30 PM
To: Michael McNally <mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>>;
Canada OER <canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
Amanda Coolidge, MEd [she/her]
Associate Director of Open Education, BCcampus
Cell: 250 818 4592 • Email: acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @acoolidge <http://www.twitter.com/acoolidge> • LinkedIn:
amandacoolidge<https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandacoolidge/>
<image001.png>
Learning. Doing. Leading.
BCcampus.ca<https://bccampus.ca/> • @BCcampus<https://twitter.com/BCcampus>
• #BCcampus<https://twitter.com/hashtag/BCcampus?src=hash>
For thousands of years the səl̓ilwətaɁɬ təməxʷ (Tsleil-Waututh), Skwxwú7mesh-ulh Temíx̱w
(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
From: Canadaoer
<canadaoer-bounces@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:canadaoer-bounces@mail.bccampus.ca>>
on behalf of Michael McNally
<mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
To: Canada OER
<canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca>>
Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign
where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of
floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how
this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it
appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they
figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a
shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party
will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was
wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that
if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding,
but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.
Michael
--
Michael B. McNally,
Associate Professor, Faculty of Education (School of Library and Information Studies)
5-171 Education North, University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta CANADA T6G 2J4
mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>
Phone: 780-492-3934
Fax: 780-492-2430
_______________________________________________
Canadaoer mailing list
Canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:Canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca>
https://lists.bccampus.ca/mailman/listinfo/canadaoer
2:40 p.m.
Thanks everyone for contributing to this conversation, I have been reading along with
great interest.
I wonder if we can take some of the bigness out of it just by starting with a first step
of developing common key messages and numbers?
Lena
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Rosario Passos
<Rosario_Passos(a)bcit.ca>
Date: Friday, November 1, 2019 at 5:36 PM
To: "Ross, Heather" <heather.ross(a)usask.ca>, Nick Baker
<nbaker(a)uwindsor.ca>
Cc: "canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca" <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Heather, I was thinking of initiatives along the lines you mention.
I agree with Nick. With the education portfolio being of provincial jurisdiction, it makes
it tricky to target the Federal Government for funding. Having said that, they fund
specific projects. Indigenous ed is one, the whole Trades Harmonization project is
another. Tim will know all about that ☺
Maybe there is room to work strategically around federally funded projects to generate
awareness and even engage in conversations about policy… Just a thought. I would love to
see Canada have a national policy / directive on Open Education! A lot of Caribbean
Governments do…. The Commonwealth of Learning could provide advise on how to go about
it.
Cheers,
Rosario
[cid:image002.jpg@01D590DB.7D0ED7E0]
Rosario Passos
Instructional Development Consultant (IDC)
Learning and Teaching Centre
British Columbia Institute of Technology (BCIT)
3700 Willingdon Avenue, Burnaby, BC V5G 3H2
Tel: (604) 456 1266 rosario_passos@bcit.ca<mailto:rosario_passos@bcit.ca>
www.bcit.ca/ltc
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From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> On Behalf Of Ross, Heather
Sent: November 1, 2019 12:19 PM
To: Nick Baker <nbaker(a)uwindsor.ca>
Cc: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Nick, also Indigenous education, which is the one area of education funded by the federal
government.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 1, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Nick Baker
<nbaker@uwindsor.ca<mailto:nbaker@uwindsor.ca>> wrote:
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Saskatchewan. Do not
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Hi all,
I would certainly be on board with this! It would be fantastic to see a national
initiative in this area, and I would throw anything at it to make that happen.
There is a massive impediment to it though, as with any national level higher ed project,
and that is where to pitch it because there is not a natural home for this ask within the
federal government. Without a ministry, it is very hard to get government to care about
it, especially since it is in an area that is a provincial mandate and with the provinces
clearly not happy with the feds right now. I don't want to pour cold water on the
idea, but want to be realistic about the uphill battle it would be to even get noticed,
let alone a commitment to resources.
Having said that, I think there are elements that could possibly fit within these
departments:
* Innovation, Science, and Economic Development (probably the closest bet)
* Employment and Social Development (a long shot, but ESD administers student loans so
maybe)
* Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism (another long shot, but could be targeted
campaign around the things they care about - have to be creative here)
* Treasury Board and Ministry of Digital Government (yes, we have one of those)
* Open Government - would need to be creative and it doesn't directly have a
ministerial portfolio attached (but falls under the above's purview), so less likely
to get funding, but Canada is the OGP chair this year, and has committed to the Open by
default approach (which has recently filtered into things like procurement of software as
well), so may be able to leverage this, plus the tri-council open requirements.
At the provincial level, anywhere we have a conservative government, as in my own province
of Ontario, is going to be a blocker to this for a number of reasons. With that in mind
though, conservative governments are making higher ed less accessible to their
constituents, more expensive if you do manage to get in, and generally disinvesting in
this file, so there is an opportunity to hammer the alternative parties to be the
opposite.
So I think it will be a tough sell, but absolutely worthwhile trying.
Cheers
Nick
We have moved!
The Office of Open Learning has moved to the CEI as of Monday, 26 August. We apologise
for any delay in getting back to you as we settle in and look forward to welcoming you in
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Director
Office of Open Learning
Room CEI-2241
Ed Lumley Centre for Engineering Innovation
(entrance at 700 California Ave)
University of Windsor
401 Sunset Ave.
Windsor, Ontario
N9B 3P4
(519) 253-3000 ext. 4925
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Twitter: @nbaker
The University of Windsor is built on the traditional territory of the Three Fires
Confederacy of First Nations, which includes the Ojibwa, the Odawa, and the Potawatomie.
As a settler here, I acknowledge and thank the traditional custodians of the land for
their wisdom and connection to this place.
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on behalf of Amanda Coolidge
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Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
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Associate Director of Open Education, BCcampus
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walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
From: Canadaoer
<canadaoer-bounces@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:canadaoer-bounces@mail.bccampus.ca>>
on behalf of Michael McNally
<mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
To: Canada OER
<canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca>>
Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign
where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of
floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how
this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it
appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they
figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a
shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party
will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was
wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that
if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding,
but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.
Michael
--
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Associate Professor, Faculty of Education (School of Library and Information Studies)
5-171 Education North, University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta CANADA T6G 2J4
mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>
Phone: 780-492-3934
Fax: 780-492-2430
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Hi everyone, observing this conversation with interest.
I’m wondering if part of the plan could leverage CICAN, who are already doing advocacy
work with the fed gov’t on behalf on colleges and institutes
(https://www.collegesinstitutes.ca/policyfocus/) . They are well resourced and well
established with v. large membership and it might be worth a phone call with Denise Amyot
– a few years ago I was invited to do a talk at their annual conference on open education
and innovation…turns out it was sponsored by a publisher - which was awkward - but there
was quite a bit of interest by people in the room about the textbook cost problem.
Tannis
Tannis Morgan, PhD
Advisor, Teaching and Learning, BCcampus
Cell: 778-991-6246<mailto:778-991-6246> • Email:
tmorgan@bccampus.ca<mailto:tmorgan@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @tanbob<https://twitter.com/tanbob> • Skype: tannismorgan • Pronouns:
She/her
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For thousands of years the səl̓ilwətaɁɬ təməxʷ (Tsleil-Waututh), Skwxwú7mesh-ulh Temíx̱w
(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
--
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Rosario Passos
<Rosario_Passos(a)bcit.ca>
Date: Friday, November 1, 2019 at 2:36 PM
To: "Ross, Heather" <heather.ross(a)usask.ca>, Nick Baker
<nbaker(a)uwindsor.ca>
Cc: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Heather, I was thinking of initiatives along the lines you mention.
I agree with Nick. With the education portfolio being of provincial jurisdiction, it makes
it tricky to target the Federal Government for funding. Having said that, they fund
specific projects. Indigenous ed is one, the whole Trades Harmonization project is
another. Tim will know all about that ☺
Maybe there is room to work strategically around federally funded projects to generate
awareness and even engage in conversations about policy… Just a thought. I would love to
see Canada have a national policy / directive on Open Education! A lot of Caribbean
Governments do…. The Commonwealth of Learning could provide advise on how to go about
it.
Cheers,
Rosario
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Rosario Passos
Instructional Development Consultant (IDC)
Learning and Teaching Centre
British Columbia Institute of Technology (BCIT)
3700 Willingdon Avenue, Burnaby, BC V5G 3H2
Tel: (604) 456 1266 rosario_passos@bcit.ca<mailto:rosario_passos@bcit.ca>
www.bcit.ca/ltc
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Sent: November 1, 2019 12:19 PM
To: Nick Baker <nbaker(a)uwindsor.ca>
Cc: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Nick, also Indigenous education, which is the one area of education funded by the federal
government.
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Hi all,
I would certainly be on board with this! It would be fantastic to see a national
initiative in this area, and I would throw anything at it to make that happen.
There is a massive impediment to it though, as with any national level higher ed project,
and that is where to pitch it because there is not a natural home for this ask within the
federal government. Without a ministry, it is very hard to get government to care about
it, especially since it is in an area that is a provincial mandate and with the provinces
clearly not happy with the feds right now. I don't want to pour cold water on the
idea, but want to be realistic about the uphill battle it would be to even get noticed,
let alone a commitment to resources.
Having said that, I think there are elements that could possibly fit within these
departments:
* Innovation, Science, and Economic Development (probably the closest bet)
* Employment and Social Development (a long shot, but ESD administers student loans so
maybe)
* Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism (another long shot, but could be targeted
campaign around the things they care about - have to be creative here)
* Treasury Board and Ministry of Digital Government (yes, we have one of those)
* Open Government - would need to be creative and it doesn't directly have a
ministerial portfolio attached (but falls under the above's purview), so less likely
to get funding, but Canada is the OGP chair this year, and has committed to the Open by
default approach (which has recently filtered into things like procurement of software as
well), so may be able to leverage this, plus the tri-council open requirements.
At the provincial level, anywhere we have a conservative government, as in my own province
of Ontario, is going to be a blocker to this for a number of reasons. With that in mind
though, conservative governments are making higher ed less accessible to their
constituents, more expensive if you do manage to get in, and generally disinvesting in
this file, so there is an opportunity to hammer the alternative parties to be the
opposite.
So I think it will be a tough sell, but absolutely worthwhile trying.
Cheers
Nick
We have moved!
The Office of Open Learning has moved to the CEI as of Monday, 26 August. We apologise
for any delay in getting back to you as we settle in and look forward to welcoming you in
our new offices!
Prof. Nick Baker
Director
Office of Open Learning
Room CEI-2241
Ed Lumley Centre for Engineering Innovation
(entrance at 700 California Ave)
University of Windsor
401 Sunset Ave.
Windsor, Ontario
N9B 3P4
(519) 253-3000 ext. 4925
fax (519) 971-3693
www.uwindsor.ca/openlearning<http://www.uwindsor.ca/openlearning>
Twitter: @nbaker
The University of Windsor is built on the traditional territory of the Three Fires
Confederacy of First Nations, which includes the Ojibwa, the Odawa, and the Potawatomie.
As a settler here, I acknowledge and thank the traditional custodians of the land for
their wisdom and connection to this place.
________________________________
From: Canadaoer
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on behalf of Amanda Coolidge
<acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>>
Sent: November 1, 2019 2:30 PM
To: Michael McNally <mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>>;
Canada OER <canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
Amanda Coolidge, MEd [she/her]
Associate Director of Open Education, BCcampus
Cell: 250 818 4592 • Email: acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @acoolidge <http://www.twitter.com/acoolidge> • LinkedIn:
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For thousands of years the səl̓ilwətaɁɬ təməxʷ (Tsleil-Waututh), Skwxwú7mesh-ulh Temíx̱w
(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
From: Canadaoer
<canadaoer-bounces@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:canadaoer-bounces@mail.bccampus.ca>>
on behalf of Michael McNally
<mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
To: Canada OER
<canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca>>
Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign
where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of
floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how
this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it
appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they
figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a
shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party
will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was
wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that
if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding,
but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.
Michael
--
Michael B. McNally,
Associate Professor, Faculty of Education (School of Library and Information Studies)
5-171 Education North, University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta CANADA T6G 2J4
mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>
Phone: 780-492-3934
Fax: 780-492-2430
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Hello everyone,
I agree that the time is ripe for this. One important step that would boost any efforts in
this direction would be if the UNESCO OER recommendation receives approval later this
month at the general conference. If this happens it will create a broader international
obligation for our federal government in support of which we can help articulate an
effective strategy. If you are unfamiliar with the recommendation see:
https://unesco.ijs.si/project/unesco-recommendation-on-open-educational-res…
Cheers,
Rajiv
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Kwantlen Polytechnic University
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Date: Friday, November 1, 2019 at 2:58 PM
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Hi everyone, observing this conversation with interest.
I’m wondering if part of the plan could leverage CICAN, who are already doing advocacy
work with the fed gov’t on behalf on colleges and institutes
(https://www.collegesinstitutes.ca/policyfocus/) . They are well resourced and well
established with v. large membership and it might be worth a phone call with Denise Amyot
– a few years ago I was invited to do a talk at their annual conference on open education
and innovation…turns out it was sponsored by a publisher - which was awkward - but there
was quite a bit of interest by people in the room about the textbook cost problem.
Tannis
Tannis Morgan, PhD
Advisor, Teaching and Learning, BCcampus
Cell: 778-991-6246<mailto:778-991-6246> • Email:
tmorgan@bccampus.ca<mailto:tmorgan@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @tanbob<https://twitter.com/tanbob> • Skype: tannismorgan • Pronouns:
She/her
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(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
--
From: Canadaoer <canadaoer-bounces(a)mail.bccampus.ca> on behalf of Rosario Passos
<Rosario_Passos(a)bcit.ca>
Date: Friday, November 1, 2019 at 2:36 PM
To: "Ross, Heather" <heather.ross(a)usask.ca>, Nick Baker
<nbaker(a)uwindsor.ca>
Cc: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Heather, I was thinking of initiatives along the lines you mention.
I agree with Nick. With the education portfolio being of provincial jurisdiction, it makes
it tricky to target the Federal Government for funding. Having said that, they fund
specific projects. Indigenous ed is one, the whole Trades Harmonization project is
another. Tim will know all about that ☺
Maybe there is room to work strategically around federally funded projects to generate
awareness and even engage in conversations about policy… Just a thought. I would love to
see Canada have a national policy / directive on Open Education! A lot of Caribbean
Governments do…. The Commonwealth of Learning could provide advise on how to go about
it.
Cheers,
Rosario
[cid:image002.jpg@01D591FB.3E204A20]
Rosario Passos
Instructional Development Consultant (IDC)
Learning and Teaching Centre
British Columbia Institute of Technology (BCIT)
3700 Willingdon Avenue, Burnaby, BC V5G 3H2
Tel: (604) 456 1266 rosario_passos@bcit.ca<mailto:rosario_passos@bcit.ca>
www.bcit.ca/ltc
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Cc: Canada OER <canadaoer(a)mail.bccampus.ca>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Nick, also Indigenous education, which is the one area of education funded by the federal
government.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 1, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Nick Baker
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Hi all,
I would certainly be on board with this! It would be fantastic to see a national
initiative in this area, and I would throw anything at it to make that happen.
There is a massive impediment to it though, as with any national level higher ed project,
and that is where to pitch it because there is not a natural home for this ask within the
federal government. Without a ministry, it is very hard to get government to care about
it, especially since it is in an area that is a provincial mandate and with the provinces
clearly not happy with the feds right now. I don't want to pour cold water on the
idea, but want to be realistic about the uphill battle it would be to even get noticed,
let alone a commitment to resources.
Having said that, I think there are elements that could possibly fit within these
departments:
* Innovation, Science, and Economic Development (probably the closest bet)
* Employment and Social Development (a long shot, but ESD administers student loans so
maybe)
* Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism (another long shot, but could be targeted
campaign around the things they care about - have to be creative here)
* Treasury Board and Ministry of Digital Government (yes, we have one of those)
* Open Government - would need to be creative and it doesn't directly have a
ministerial portfolio attached (but falls under the above's purview), so less likely
to get funding, but Canada is the OGP chair this year, and has committed to the Open by
default approach (which has recently filtered into things like procurement of software as
well), so may be able to leverage this, plus the tri-council open requirements.
At the provincial level, anywhere we have a conservative government, as in my own province
of Ontario, is going to be a blocker to this for a number of reasons. With that in mind
though, conservative governments are making higher ed less accessible to their
constituents, more expensive if you do manage to get in, and generally disinvesting in
this file, so there is an opportunity to hammer the alternative parties to be the
opposite.
So I think it will be a tough sell, but absolutely worthwhile trying.
Cheers
Nick
We have moved!
The Office of Open Learning has moved to the CEI as of Monday, 26 August. We apologise
for any delay in getting back to you as we settle in and look forward to welcoming you in
our new offices!
Prof. Nick Baker
Director
Office of Open Learning
Room CEI-2241
Ed Lumley Centre for Engineering Innovation
(entrance at 700 California Ave)
University of Windsor
401 Sunset Ave.
Windsor, Ontario
N9B 3P4
(519) 253-3000 ext. 4925
fax (519) 971-3693
www.uwindsor.ca/openlearning<http://www.uwindsor.ca/openlearning>
Twitter: @nbaker
The University of Windsor is built on the traditional territory of the Three Fires
Confederacy of First Nations, which includes the Ojibwa, the Odawa, and the Potawatomie.
As a settler here, I acknowledge and thank the traditional custodians of the land for
their wisdom and connection to this place.
________________________________
From: Canadaoer
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on behalf of Amanda Coolidge
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Sent: November 1, 2019 2:30 PM
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Canada OER <canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca>>
Subject: Re: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
Amanda Coolidge, MEd [she/her]
Associate Director of Open Education, BCcampus
Cell: 250 818 4592 • Email: acoolidge@bccampus.ca<mailto:acoolidge@bccampus.ca>
Twitter: @acoolidge <http://www.twitter.com/acoolidge> • LinkedIn:
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For thousands of years the səl̓ilwətaɁɬ təməxʷ (Tsleil-Waututh), Skwxwú7mesh-ulh Temíx̱w
(Squamish), W̱SÁNEĆ, and the Songhees Nation of the Lək̓ʷəŋən (Lekwungen) Peoples have
walked gently on the unceded territories where we now live, work, and play. We are
committed to building relationships with the first peoples here, one based in honour and
respect, and we thank them for their hospitality.
From: Canadaoer
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on behalf of Michael McNally
<mmcnally@ualberta.ca<mailto:mmcnally@ualberta.ca>>
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM
To: Canada OER
<canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca<mailto:canadaoer@mail.bccampus.ca>>
Subject: [Canadaoer] National OER Advocacy for the Next Federal Election
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal election campaign
where affordability was a central concern for seemingly every party, even to the point of
floating vague promises (e.g. wireless mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how
this would be practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants, and it
appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure promises if they
figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the fact we are likely looking at a
shorter time frame to the next election (most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party
will be looking to improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was
wondering if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan issue, that
if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get OER funding,
but thought I would see if there was some collective interest in pursuing this.
Michael
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It certainly appears we have enough interest, and perhaps the right timing
to get something going, and I quite appreciate Lena's idea that we don't
need to solve this all at once. A few questions to I've been thinking
about over the past few days:
1) How do we want to keep this conversation going? Do we continue it as a
long email thread discussion; do we want to plan a conference call; is
there another approach most well suited?
2) Would the goal be to influence the government, with the goal of policy
implementation in the short term, or do we go for the parties so that this
would be an issue in the next election (or do we just aim for both
objectives)? Relatedly does anyone have any expertise on the limitations
under the Lobbying Act/know of a good resource for explaining such rules
and limitations?
3) Are we aiming to build a single voice for advocacy bringing together all
the interested groups, or do we want to develop key messages and a common
set of numbers/stats and let individuals groups pursue their own approach?
Michael
On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 5:00 AM Rajiv Jhangiani <rajiv.jhangiani(a)kpu.ca>
wrote:
Hello everyone,
I agree that the time is ripe for this. One important step that would
boost any efforts in this direction would be if the UNESCO OER
recommendation receives approval later this month at the general
conference. If this happens it will create a broader international
obligation for our federal government in support of which we can help
articulate an effective strategy. If you are unfamiliar with the
recommendation see:
https://unesco.ijs.si/project/unesco-recommendation-on-open-educational-res…
Cheers,
Rajiv
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Hi everyone, observing this conversation with interest.
I’m wondering if part of the plan could leverage CICAN, who are already
doing advocacy work with the fed gov’t on behalf on colleges and institutes
(https://www.collegesinstitutes.ca/policyfocus/) . They are well
resourced and well established with v. large membership and it might be
worth a phone call with Denise Amyot – a few years ago I was invited to do
a talk at their annual conference on open education and innovation…turns
out it was sponsored by a publisher - which was awkward - but there was
quite a bit of interest by people in the room about the textbook cost
problem.
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Heather, I was thinking of initiatives along the lines you mention.
I agree with Nick. With the education portfolio being of provincial
jurisdiction, it makes it tricky to target the Federal Government for
funding. Having said that, they fund specific projects. Indigenous ed is
one, the whole Trades Harmonization project is another. Tim will know all
about that J
Maybe there is room to work strategically around federally funded projects
to generate awareness and even engage in conversations about policy… Just a
thought. I would love to see Canada have a national policy / directive on
Open Education! A lot of Caribbean Governments do…. The Commonwealth of
Learning could provide advise on how to go about it.
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Nick, also Indigenous education, which is the one area of education funded
by the federal government.
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Hi all,
I would certainly be on board with this! It would be fantastic to see a
national initiative in this area, and I would throw anything at it to make
that happen.
There is a massive impediment to it though, as with any national level
higher ed project, and that is where to pitch it because there is not a
natural home for this ask within the federal government. Without a
ministry, it is very hard to get government to care about it, especially
since it is in an area that is a provincial mandate and with the provinces
clearly not happy with the feds right now. I don't want to pour cold water
on the idea, but want to be realistic about the uphill battle it would be
to even get noticed, let alone a commitment to resources.
Having said that, I think there are elements that could possibly fit
within these departments:
- Innovation, Science, and Economic Development (probably the closest
bet)
- Employment and Social Development (a long shot, but ESD administers
student loans so maybe)
- Canadian Heritage and Multiculturalism (another long shot, but could
be targeted campaign around the things they care about - have to be
creative here)
- Treasury Board and Ministry of Digital Government (yes, we have one
of those)
- Open Government - would need to be creative and it doesn't directly
have a ministerial portfolio attached (but falls under the above's
purview), so less likely to get funding, but Canada is the OGP chair this
year, and has committed to the Open by default approach (which has recently
filtered into things like procurement of software as well), so may be able
to leverage this, plus the tri-council open requirements.
At the provincial level, anywhere we have a conservative government, as in
my own province of Ontario, is going to be a blocker to this for a number
of reasons. With that in mind though, conservative governments are making
higher ed less accessible to their constituents, more expensive if you do
manage to get in, and generally disinvesting in this file, so there is an
opportunity to hammer the alternative parties to be the opposite.
So I think it will be a tough sell, but absolutely worthwhile trying.
Cheers
Nick
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Yes let’s do it!! How do we proceed?
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Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal
election campaign where affordability was a central concern for seemingly
every party, even to the point of floating vague promises (e.g. wireless
mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how this would be
practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants,
and it appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure
promises if they figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the
fact we are likely looking at a shorter time frame to the next election
(most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party will be looking to
improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was wondering
if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan
issue, that if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply
adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get
OER funding, but thought I would see if there was some collective interest
in pursuing this.
Michael
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12:46 p.m.
That's a great idea, Michael. Definitely count me in. I also think the
student associations are a key component of this. Having a campaign that
gets a statement or perspective from each institution's student
association. I know there was a letter-writing campaign by students at one
point.
Personally, I'd like to see as well coordinated six month to year-long
campaign. Perhaps pulling together crafted messages (in short letter or
infographic form) from each participating institution, which includes a
student association and faculty perspective, and is situated under a common
tagline/hashtag (call to action) could be sent to the NDP (or multiple
parties) on a staggered basis - via mail, email, and social media. The
messages could highlight money saved to students, improved pedagogical
approaches, and flexibility that OER affords instructors, etc. I would
think any coordinated effort that gets press would put pressure on the
parties.
Just some Friday thoughts.
Cheers,
Erik
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 6:06 PM Michael McNally <mmcnally(a)ualberta.ca>
wrote:
Dear Canada OER Community,
I was reflecting on the fact that we recently went through a federal
election campaign where affordability was a central concern for seemingly
every party, even to the point of floating vague promises (e.g. wireless
mobile cost reductions with little specifics on how this would be
practically achieved). Specifically, the NDP noted post-secondary
affordability as a key issue, but its focus was more on tuition and grants,
and it appeared, to the best of my knowledge, silent on textbook costs.
Many parties also seemed relatively unconcerned about making expenditure
promises if they figured they would garner votes. Couple these with the
fact we are likely looking at a shorter time frame to the next election
(most saying 18 to 24 months) and that every party will be looking to
improve on their performance from earlier in the month, and I was wondering
if there was interest in trying to get OER funding on to any of the federal
party's radar (with the hope that given it is a relatively non-partisan
issue, that if one party were to propose OER funding others may simply
adopt it).
I think there might be a variety of approaches/strategies to pursue to get
OER funding, but thought I would see if there was some collective interest
in pursuing this.
Michael
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